After a thread started by Brasileiro on Xtratime Forum into wich I contributed for a good part. Also because I made some more researches since, I post it all here. The title of the thread was "Legends of the Game choose their Dream Teams".
I will post it in at least three part. The First one here countains the choices of the most legendary players.
So it is teams already posted on the forum and some additions (teams and overall team).
The list starts with Alfredo Di Stéfano's 11 (that I have too).
ALFREDO DI STEFANO (born in 1926/ 11 made in 1961 for Football Magazine/ France Football):
Cozzi - C.Sosa, W.Wright, Nilton S. - Boszik, N.Rossi - Moreno, Puskas - Kopa, Erico, Loustau.
Mentions: RW: Munoz, Julinho.
LUIS SUAREZ (born in 1935/ made in 2013 for 'Undici', Italia 2):
Iribar - Djalma S., Beckenbauer, Nilton S. - Garrincha, Moore, Cruijff, Gento - Maradona, Di Stéfano – Pelé.
BOBBY CHARLTON (born in 1937):
Banks - Djalma S., Moore, Beckenbauer, Marzolini - Platini, Di Stéfano, D.Edwards, Cruijff - Pelé, Maradona.
Coach: Ferguson. Bench: J.Charles, Gento, Schmeichel, Keane, Puskas. (FourFourTwo)
JIMMY GREAVES (born in 1940):
Yashin - C.Alberto, Beckenbauer, Maldini - Zidane, Cruijff - Pelé, Maradona - Garrincha, G.Müller, Messi. (Mirror)
EUSEBIO DA SILVA FERREIRA (born in 1942):
Yashin – Djalma S., Beckenbauer, Germano, Schnellinger – Matthews, Didi, Charlton, Best – Pelé, Di Stéfano.
Coach : Guttmann. Bench:Gento, Puskas. Told he didn't want to bench himself and made mention of Rivera. (for FourFourTwo)
Yashin - Vogts, Bellini, Baptista, Facchetti - Coluna, Di Stéfano, Charlton - Garrincha, Messi, C.Ronaldo. (for Placar)
CARLOS ALBERTO TORRES (born in 1944) :
Ceni - Djalma S., L.Pereira, Aldair, Nilton S. - Zito, Gérson - Garrincha, Pelé, Ronaldo, Jairzinho.
Mentions: Cruijff, Beckenbauer, Maradona. (for Placar)
FRANZ BECKENBAUER (born in 1945) :
Yashin - C.Alberto, Beckenbauer, Moore, Facchetti - Best, B.Charlton, Di Stéfano, Cruijff - Pelé, Maradona.
RIVELINO (born in january 1946) :
Banks - C.Alberto, Beckenbauer, L.Pereira, Nilton S. - Gérson - Maradona, Cruijff, Pelé - Garrincha, Eusébio.
Coach: Scolari. Bench: Yashin, Baresi, Zidane, Romario, Clodoaldo, Didi, Ronaldo. (for Placar)
DRAGAN DZAJIC (born in may 1946) :
Yashin - Vogts, Beckenbauer, Trésor, Facchetti - Matthaüs - Platini, Pelé, Maradona - Eusébio, Ronaldo. (Sportblic)
ELIAS FIGUEROA (born in october 1946) :
Mazurciewicz - C.Alberto, Figueroa, Beckenbauer, Nilton S. - Carpegiani, Falcao - Pelé, Maradona - Garrincha, Di Stéfano.
Coach: R.Minelli. (for Placar)
TOSTAO (born in january 1947) :
Yashin - C.Alberto, Beckenbauer, Baresi, Nilton S. - Cruijff, Zidane, Maradona - Pelé - Garrincha, Messi. (for Placar)
JOHAN CRUIJFF (born in april 1947) :
Yashin - C.Alberto, Beckenbauer, Krol - Di Stéfano, Guardiola, Charlton, Keizer - Garrincha, Pelé, Maradona. (For Marca)
LUIS PEREIRA (born in 1949) :
Banks - Djalma S., Baresi, Beckenbauer, Breitner - Falcao - Garrincha, Pelé, Maradona - van Basten, G.Müller. (SoFoot/ Placar ?)
MARINHO CHAGAS (born in Feb. 1952) :
Manga - C.Alberto, Beckenbauer, Pereyra, N.Santos - Platini, Neeskens, Zico - Jairzinho, Pelé, Neymar. (Placar)
ALAIN GIRESSE (born in august the 2nd 1952) :
Yashin - C.Alberto, Beckenbauer, Trésor, Maldini - Tigana, Neeskens - Pelé, Platini, Maradona – Cruijff. (SoFoot)
OSVALDO ARDILES (born in august the 8th 1952)
Banks - Moore, Beckenbauer, Passarella – Garrincha, Pelé, Maradona, Cruijff – Klinsmann, Romario, Kempes.
Coach : Menotti. Bench : Fillol, Zidane, Eusébio. (FourFourTwo)
ZICO (born in 1953):
Raul - Leandro, Marinho, Mozer, Junior - Andrade - Adilio, Tita, Pelé - Nunes, Lico. (for Placar)
Maier – Leandro, Baresi, Passarella, Junior – Socrates, Platini, Falcao, Maradona – Rummenigge, Keegan.
Coach : T.Santana. Bench : Scirea, Boniek, Ardilès. (for FourFourTwo in 2005)
PAOLO ROSSI (born in Sept. 1956) :
Zoff - D.Santos, Cannavaro, Beckenbauer, Maldini - Zidane, Lampard, Di Stéfano - Cruijff, Pelé, Maradona. (Placar)
THOMAS N'KONO (born in Jul.1956):
Buffon - Breitner, Beckenbauer, Baresi, Maldini - Tigana - Garrincha, Maradona, Conti - Pelé, Cruijff. (SoFoot)
FRANCO BARESI (born in august 1960) http://i.imgur.com/nDc1l.jpg :
Buffon – Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, R.Carlos – Figo, Rijkaard, Zidane, Giggs – Maradona, Van Basten. (FourFourTwo)
RUUD GULLIT (born in 1962) :
Schmeichel – Kaltz, Desailly, Baresi, Maldini – Kaka, Rijkaard, Maradona, D.Cooper – Cruijff, van Basten.
Manager : Ferguson. Bench : Zidane, Ronaldinho, Roy Keane, R.Koeman, van der Sar. (FourFourTwo)
GIANLUCA VIALLI (born in 1964) http://i.imgur.com/SzoIh2t.jpg:
Zenga – Maldini, Baresi, Vierchowod, Cabrini – Gullit, Cerezo – Platini – Zico, Maradona – van Basten.
Coach : Lippi. Subs :Del Piero, R.Baggio, Mancini, Beckham, Zola. (FourFourTwo)
RAI (born in may 1965):
Taffarel - Leandro, Maldini, Beckenbauer, Junior - Falcao - Socrates, Maradona, Pelé - van Basten, Rivelino. (for Placar)
LAURENT BLANC (born in nov. 1965):
Barthez – Cafu, Baresi, Desailly, Maldini – Beckham, Keane, Zidane, Giggs – Ronaldo, Ronaldinho.
Coaches : Ferguson & Lippi. (for FourFourTwo in 2006)
Barthez - J.Zanetti, J.César, Popescu, Sergi - Keane - Figo, Giggs - Zola - Ronaldo, van Nistelrooy.
Mentions: Frey*, Baills, R.Ferdinand, Alemao, Guardiola, Careca, Dugarry. *the only one he didn't played with in this team. (teammates in club, For L'Equipe in 2010)
MILINKO PANTIC (born in sept. 1966) :
van der Sar – Cafu, Maldini, Baresi, R.Carlos – M.Silva – Maradona, Zico, Dzajic – Platini, Ronaldo. (SoFoot)
GIANLUCA PAGLIUCA (born in dec. 1966):
Dassaev - Kaltz, Beckenbauer, Scirea, R.Carlos - Cruijff, Platini, Matthaüs, Rivelino - Maradona, Ronaldo. (for 'Undici', Italia 2)
Dassaev - Kaltz, Beckenbauer, Scirea, R.Carlos - Cruijff, Platini, Matthaüs, Rivelino - Maradona, Ronaldo. (for 'Undici', Italia 2)
CLAUDIO CANIGGIA (born in Jan. 1967):
Goycoechea - Cafu, Ayala, Ruggeri, Maldini - Maradona, Di Stefano, Pelé, Cruijff - Messi, Ronaldo. (Placar)
Goycoechea - Cafu, Ayala, Ruggeri, Maldini - Maradona, Di Stefano, Pelé, Cruijff - Messi, Ronaldo. (Placar)
GIUSEPPE SIGNORI (born in Feb. 1968) :
Zoff – Thuram, Baresi, Dunga, Brehme – Xavi, Platini, Iniesta – C.Ronaldo, Ronaldo, Maradona. (So Foot)
Marcel DESAILLY (born in Sept. 1968) :
Peruzzi – Thuram, Terry, Baresi, Maldini – Gerrard, Zidane, Vieira – Maradona – van Basten, Ronaldo.
Coach : Capello. (FourFourTwo)
LEONARDO (born in 1969) :
Dassaev - Leandro, Baresi, Beckenbauer, Maldini - Zidane, Cruijff - Zico, Maradona - Pelé, Ronaldo. (Placar)
ZINEDINE ZIDANE (born in 1972/ France, OM + Maradona):
Barthez - Thuram, Blanc, Mozer, Lizarazu - Makélélé - Francescoli, Zidane, Waddle - Ronaldo, Maradona. (for a sponsor)
RYAN GIGGS (born in 1973) :
Buffon – J.Zanetti, Thuram, R.Koeman, R.Carlos – Figo, Zidane, Davids, Stoichkov – Shevchenko, Romario.
Coach : Lippi. (FourFourTwo)
RONALDO LUIZ NAZARIO DE LIMA (born in 1976):
Iribar - Cafu, Beckenbauer, Maldini - Xavi - Maradona, Zidane, Cruijff - Messi, Pelé, Di Stéfano. (Mundo Deportivo)
RAUL GONZALES BLANCO (born in 1977) :
Toldo – Cannavaro, Hierro, R.Carlos – Figo, R.Baggio, Redondo, Giggs – Zidane – Rivaldo, Romario. (FourFourTwo)
YAYA TOURE (born in 1983) :
Barthez – Cafu, Baresi, Beckenbauer, Maldini – Messi, Vieira, Zidane, Maradona – Pelé, Baggio. (for some brandat)
EDEN HAZARD (born in Jan. 1991)
Schmeichel – Cannavaro, Blanc, Desailly, R.Carlos – Figo, Vieira, Nedved – Pirès – Kluivert, Bergkamp. (for EA Sports in 2014)
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Mostly known as coaches :
ANGEL CAPPA (born in 1946/ coach in Argentina and Spain):
Gatti - C.Alberto, Hierro, Baresi - Fabregas, Xavi, Iniesta - Pedernera - Maradona, Pelé, Cruijff. (SoFoot)
MARCELO LIPPI (born in 1948):
Buffon - Djalma S., Beckenbauer, Maldini, Facchetti - Zico, Di Stéfano, Cruijff - Garrincha, Pelé, Maradona. (for Placar)
PACHO MATURANA (born in 1949):
Buffon - Cafu, Passarella, Beckenbauer, Maldini - Rijkaard, Matthaüs - Maradona - Ronaldinho, Pelé, Cruyff. (SoFoot)
Also posted : Dirceu Lopes, Renato Gaucho (disqualified as all-brazilian), Cantona (disqualified as narco-team), Zamorano, Ibra and more. Manys from Placar (Times dos sonhos), FourFourTwo, Sky Sports (« played with »), SoFoot and of course all possible sources as the magazines in paper, newspapers, books. (websites of mags don't have all the 11 that are in the mags, obviously)
From France Football I remember Halilhodzic had Osim, Platini and Cruijff...can't remember the eight other players...get rid of all the Friday edition (the edition into wich there was a Dream Team weekly during some time but that was not so « all time » in general, a very few were). That is another possible source.
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Grands élécteurs (world player of the year type : Ballon d'or France Football or World Soccer Award as for Zico) :
Di Stéfano (born in 1926):
Cozzi - C.Sosa, W.Wright, Nilton S. - Boszik, N.Rossi - Moreno, Puskas - Kopa, Erico, Loustau.
Mentions: RW: Munoz, Julinho.
Suarez (born in 1935/ made in 2013 for 'Undici', Italia 2):
Iribar - Djalma S., Beckenbauer, Nilton S. - Garrincha, Moore, Cruijff, Gento - Maradona, Di Stéfano – Pelé.
Charlton (born in 1937):
Banks - Djalma S., Moore, Beckenbauer, Marzolini - Platini, Di Stéfano, D.Edwards, Cruijff - Pelé, Maradona.
Coach: Ferguson. Bench: J.Charles, Gento, Schmeichel, Keane, Puskas. (FourFourTwo)
Eusébio (born in 1942):
Yashin – Djalma S., Beckenbauer, Germano, Schnellinger – Matthews, Didi, Charlton, Best – Pelé, Di Stéfano.
Coach : Guttmann. Bench:Gento, Puskas. Told he didn't want to bench himself and made mention of Rivera. (for FourFourTwo)
Yashin - Vogts, Bellini, Baptista, Facchetti - Coluna, Di Stéfano, Charlton - Garrincha, Messi, C.Ronaldo. (for Placar)
Beckenbauer (born in 1945) :
Yashin - C.Alberto, Beckenbauer, Moore, Facchetti - Best, B.Charlton, Di Stéfano, Cruijff - Pelé, Maradona.
Cruijff (born in april 1947) :
Yashin - C.Alberto, Beckenbauer, Krol - Di Stéfano, Guardiola, Charlton, Keizer - Garrincha, Pelé, Maradona. (For Marca)
Zico (born in 1953):
Maier – Leandro, Baresi, Passarella, Junior – Socrates, Platini, Falcao, Maradona – Rummenigge, Keegan.
Coach : T.Santana. Bench : Scirea, Boniek, Ardilès. (for FourFourTwo in 2005)
Gullit (born in 1962)
Schmeichel – Kaltz, Desailly, Baresi, Maldini – Kaka, Rijkaard, Maradona, D.Cooper – Cruijff, van Basten.
Manager : Ferguson. Bench : Zidane, Ronaldinho, Roy Keane, R.Koeman, van der Sar.
Zidane (born in 1972/ France, OM + Maradona):
Barthez - Thuram, Blanc, Mozer, Lizarazu - Makélélé - Francescoli, Zidane, Waddle - Ronaldo, Maradona. (for a sponsor)
Ronaldo (born in 1976):
Iribar - Cafu, Beckenbauer, Maldini - Xavi - Maradona, Zidane, Cruijff - Messi, Pelé, Di Stéfano. (Mundo Deportivo)
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Overall team of voting players born before 1960 (Di Stefano, Suarez, B.Charlton, Greaves, Eusebio x2 but 2 citations = 1, C.A Torres, Rivelino, Dzajic, Figueroa, Tostao, Cruijff, L.Pereira, Giresse, Ardilès, Zico, N'Kono, so 16 players including 5 brazilians and one Chilean who played in a Brazilian club, SC Internacional) :
GKs:
Cozzi 1, Iribar 1, Banks 4, Yashin 7, Ceni 1, Mazurciewicz 1, Maïer 1, Buffon 1
DFs:
C.Sosa 1, B.Wright 1, Nilton S.6, Djalma S.5, Beckenbauer 15, Moore 4, Marzolini 1,
C.Alberto 7, Maldini 3, Germano 1, Baptista 1, Schnellinger 1, Vogts 2, Facchetti 3,
Bellini 1, L.Pereira 2, Aldair 1, Trésor 2, Figueroa 1, Baresi 4, Krol 1, Breitner 2,
Passarella 2, Leandro 1, Junior 1
"MFs":
Boszik 1; N.Rossi 1; D.Edwards 1; Didi 1; Coluna 1; Zito 1; Gérson 2; Matthaüs 1 ;
Carpegiani 1; Falcao 3; Guardiola 1; Tigana 2; Neeskens 1
Fwds (AMs, Wingers...Forwards):
Moreno 1, Puskas 1, Kopa 1, Erico 1, Loustau 1, Garrincha 11, Cruijff 9,
Gento 1, Maradona 14, Di Stéfano 6, Pelé 15, Platini 4, Zidane 2, G.Müller 2,
Messi 3, Matthews 1, Charlton 3, Best 2, C.Ronaldo 1, Ronaldo 2, Jairzinho 1,
Eusébio 2, Keizer 1, van Basten 1, Klinsmann 1, Romario 1, Kempes 1, Socrates 1,
Rummenigge 1, Keegan 1, B.Conti 1
____________________Yashin 7 -
C.Alberto 7, Beckenbauer 15, Moore / Baresi 4, Nilton S. 6 -
________Platini 4, Di Stéfano 6, Cruijff 9 -
_____Garrincha 11, Pelé 15, Maradona 14.
Including the votes of the following coaches who are Cappa, Lippi and Maturana, it would be Baresi or Maldini (5) instead of Moore or Baresi (4). And that's all.
In the MFs section it would be +1 for Matthaüs (=2) and Rijkaard (=1). Unsurprinsingly, Falcao, with 3 votes for, leads this group (of all types of mids) followed by Gerson, Tigana and Matthaüs (2). Also, amongst others who are not cited by the players, Zico got finally one vote with Lippi.
(Now, there is Marinho Chagas 11, born in 52, since the count was made but it is not included. He has the same laterals as in the overall team, the same libero plus the Uruguayan Pereyra (SPFC). It makes +1 for Neeskens, Platini, Zico (his midfield) and Jairzinho in gross so that doesn't change anything. Lastly, in attack, yes, he had Pelé and cited Neymar as the LW. Paolo Rossi, as a voter, is not included too since I found his 11 lately. His vote makes Maldini > Baresi, and Zidane and Djalma S. respectively closer to Platini and C.Alberto.
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